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Clyde Lewis | January 2, 2020
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When we turned on the way-back machine on the show just prior to 2020, Howard, who is a regular caller from Texas had chimed in and asked why I did not include the story of the Tic Tac UFOs as one of the biggest stories of the year.

I know that last year it was a hot issue and there was a lot of talk about it at many of the UFO conventions I attended.  In fact, at one of the functions, the McMinnville UFO festival Commander David Fravor was a guest speaker.

Commander Fravor witnessed the Tic Tac UFO incident on a training run over the Pacific Ocean, 140 miles southwest of San Diego. At the time, he was stationed aboard the USS Nimitz as the commanding officer of Strike Fighter Squadron 41, also known as “The Black Aces.”

What was most disconcerting about his appearance at the festival is that we were not granted an interview with him.  The other “guest” at the festival was Bob Lazar. Again, when we asked for an interview with Lazar, we were told “no.”

This was the first time in the 20 year history we have been involved with the festival that we were not granted interviews with the guest speakers.

At the time I let it go, even though deep down I was dismayed as we have had every witness to both the Princeton Tic Tac incident and the Nimitz Tic Tac encounters on the program.

When things like this happen, I always think to myself that perhaps there is something that is afoot.  I have had a reputation in some circles of asking hard questions of guests because of my exhaustive research on subjects.

It seemed that I was not approved for the interview because maybe I would be asking some very in-depth questions about the case and so it was crucial that I was not selected so that whoever was behind the story had complete control of the narrative

Again, I interviewed other crew members that are independent of Fravor and many of them felt that they had a fair and balances ay in the matter.

In the meantime, 2019 has now passed into history but what hasn’t been forgotten is the Tic Tac UFO story that is the gift that keeps on giving.

If you blinked last month you probably missed the story that on December 6th of 2019, the Pentagon told researcher John Greenewald of the Black Vault – one of the biggest archives of declassified UFO files that the big UFO program that was revealed by the New York Times in 2017 didn’t study UFOs, or UAP or anomalies of any sort. It simply studied exotic weapons and their threat to national security.

So if you are thinking that the Tic Tac story was still the biggest UFO story of 2019, it is because for two years it has been the big story in Ufology—the big story in 2019 is the Defense Department’s about-face on the issue which raises suspicion again on just what is the truth about the encounters and what the Navy knew and why the Pentagon has divorced itself from the reality that they did set aside $22 million dollars to focus their assessment of UFOs

The big story in this whole saga is that the truth is elusive and that with any UFO topic there have been many promising stories that have given fuel to the fires of speculation.

We know that when the Army Air Force announced that they had recovered a flying disc at Roswell in 1947 – they immediately did an about-face went into a storage room and showed the press that what was discovered was a weather balloon.

When President Truman discussed that he too was interested in looking into the Flying saucer hysteria, the military devised Project Blue Book that in all sincerity was a Public relations move to discredit witnesses and to debunk various UFO sightings.

The Tic Tac encounters and the program called Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program are simply other instances where the Military does an about-face when they are bombarded with questions about UFO’s that they do not have answers for.  It could also be that the Department of defense knows a great deal about what they are dealing with and worries about whether or not they have the capacity of protecting American citizens form open skies that at any time could be filled with unknowns that are hell-bent on invasion or something else.

Then just before Christmas, the Navy pilot who recorded the unidentified Tic Tacs in 2004 went on the record as saying that he does not want to be associated with aliens or any talk about the Tic Tacs being piloted by extraterrestrial intelligence.

Chad Underwood remained silent about the incident for 15 years about the encounters.

His video represents one of three known instances in which Navy pilots caught an unknown aerial object (the Navy prefers that term over UFO) on camera. The other two instances were on January 21, 2015.

He said that he didn’t want his name attached to speculation about any alien aircraft but that he still thought of the object as a UFO.

Before Underwood spotted the flying object, he said, he received a tip from his commanding officer that there might be something strange in the sky. A few days earlier, the USS Princeton had been tracking about eight to 10 mysterious flying objects near the Catalina and San Clemente islands in California.

The day Underwood recorded the UFO, weather reports indicate there was a clear blue sky but all of a sudden, he spotted what he called “a blip on his radar.”

An unclassified report from the Department of Defense described the object as “solid white” and “smooth,” with a shape resembling “an elongated egg.” Underwood was the one who coined the nickname “Tic Tac.”

Underwood said the object definitely wasn’t a bird or a weather balloon, and since it was moving at a speed of about 138 mph, it was presumably too slow to be an aircraft. It also had no wings or heat, which ruled out the possibility of a cruise missile.

The DOD report said the object “possibly demonstrated the ability to ‘cloak’ or become invisible to the human eye” and might be able to “operate undersea completely undetectable by our most advanced sensors.”

It goes without saying that there was no evidence indicating that the craft was extraterrestrial in nature.

Former members of the military are now suggesting that glitches in the infrared camera in Underwood’s plane may have been playing tricks on the pilot’s eye.

But again this is speculation and well planted in order to try and demystify the encounter.

Underwood insists there is a possibility that the UFO was part of covert tests done by NASA or the military. He told New York magazine that he was never instructed to keep silent about what he saw.

He just wants to set the record straight that while the pop culture often associates UFOs with aliens –he certainly is not jumping to any conclusions on the matter.

I have always wanted to be on the right side of history and at times when you think you have a story all sewn up you think you can acknowledge it and then move on to the next big thing.

However, this UFO non-UFO story is now becoming more complex and the history of it is not etched in stone.

There are many hopefuls out there looking for UFO or even ETI disclosure and simply it means a lot of things to a lot of different people. The problem I am now seeing with the Tic Tac encounters is that while this can be seen as a form of disclosure limiting the explanation to that of the military and the Department of defense creates the paradox that people will only believe in the official narrative they are already predisposed to believe.

Disclosure is simply political – Confirmation is what is needed. The Tic Tac incident is neither disclosure or confirmation or anything that would prove the existence of extraterrestrial intelligence.

Even though the thought is intriguing – it is important to keep

The cultural impact of extraterrestrial contact will certainly force changes to terrestrial science, technology, religion, politics, and ecosystems resulting from contact with an extraterrestrial civilization.

It is closely related to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI), which attempts to locate intelligent life as opposed to analyzing the implications of contact with that life.

The potential changes from extraterrestrial contact could vary greatly in magnitude and type, based on the extraterrestrial civilization’s level of technological advancement, degree of benevolence or malevolence, and level of mutual comprehension between itself and humanity.

The medium, through which humanity is contacted, be it electromagnetic radiation, direct physical interaction, extraterrestrial artifact, or otherwise, may also influence the results of contact. Incorporating these factors, various systems have been created to assess the implications of extraterrestrial contact.

The Tic Tac incident obviously has legs and it keeps walking into the new decade albeit cautiously as the Military wants to gain control of a narrative that they have apparently lost control of.

UFO enthusiasts are just getting a handout and the Military has a history of throwing table scraps at researchers especially when the clamor for alien disclosure is mentioned.

However thanks to people like John Greenwald who even bothered to ask questions about the incident and how the Department of Defense really feels this would not be gaining attention again – Russian Collusion and Impeachment have basically rendered the story almost nonexistent.

If it weren’t for people like Tom DeLonge of To the Stars Academy, we would still be chasing the weather balloons of the gods.

But, now even in the face of new denial by the Pentagon, they have an even bigger problem. It is not enough to divorce themselves from statements about investigating UFOs in 2017 – the “burden of proof” has now shifted to the government to demonstrate UFOs don’t exist or that they are Chinese or Russian weapons that are waiting to be taken out by the Space Force.

The impact is obvious.

We have most definitely established the undeniable impact the New York Times articles have had in the online discussion of UFOs.  Skeptics would often tell the likes of the late Stanton Friedman that if UFOs were real they would read about them in the New York Times.

Other mainstream media outlets like the Washington Post have also started to toe the new party line of treating the subject more seriously, instead of the usual snark employed since the days of the Brookings Report and Project Blue Book.

Even Popular Mechanics, a magazine that would often try to debunk UFOs, is now more pro UFO because of the New York Times story.

Even in June of last year, George Stephanopoulos asked Donald Trump about the Navy’s reported UFO incidents. Trump said he’d been briefed, yeah, sure. “People are saying they’re seeing UFOs,” he said. “Do I believe it? Not particularly.”

The president, though, wasn’t the only one to get a briefing. That same month, senators gathered in a “that’s classified” way to learn about military UFO encounters. Spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Daniel Day said the meeting centered “on efforts to understand and identify these threats to the safety and security of our aviators.”

Later, Senator Mark Walker accused the Navy of withholding UFO info, saying, “There is frustration with the lack of answers to specific questions about the threat that superior aircraft flying in United States airspace may pose.”

So much concern and now so much denial—we have seen this before and so now all we have are stories.

Right now it feels like we’ve reached some sort of cultural impasse in which talking about UFOs is no longer taboo, but neither are we being compelled to talk about the phenomenon with the seriousness it deserves. 

The reason is because there is so much complexity to the subject and so many people wanting the military and their politicians to disclose what they want to hear about the UFO /alien issue.

We need to do more than just keep talking about the same Navy encounters over and over again because this is an example of putting all of our UFO eggs or in this case, Tic Tacs in one basket.

The battle has been won in getting the mainstream media to wake up and report these things in the correct manner.

In 2020, we need to see science step up to the plate and get their stories straight about the existence of biological life on Mars and beyond.

Beyond speculation is the reality that other space agencies and foreign telescopes are finding interesting anomalies in space that indicate possible intelligent life is in the cosmos, only to be slammed away by so-called enlightened scientists that make it a point to dismiss anything that can be considered a breakthrough.

There should be some sort of peer-reviewed paper that is written by scientists and academics that can be confirmation to the forefront.  We know that some mollusk found under the ice of Europe may not be able to pilot a mothership or command a fleet but there are still questions about warp drives and the possibility that we have had a secret space program that has now been made legitimate with the creation of space force.

Three grainy, monochromatic clips of so-called Tic Tacs are a start but they are not the only conclusion or the only incident worthy of attention – there are still many other instances that need be looked into and studied.

It needs to be revealed that much of this stuff is often talked about behind closed doors and in secret meetings.

But the testimony of Senators really isn’t cutting it anymore. Neither does the act of monopolizing a story where only certain reporters and writers are allowed to control the narrative by blocking interviews or hiring interviewers that will be “kind” to their claims.

This only kindles resentment and would more than likely create derision and division which is already plaguing those who are UFO sprinters and upstarts who have inherited their positions instead of putting in the work necessary for the long haul.

That is what it has been – a long haul and there has been no date of deliverance even though the campaign for disclosure has always been whatever year is on the calendar.

The year 2020 is going to be another year of struggle for those who wish to report the UFO phenomena with a modicum of transparency.

We are all seeking the truth about this matter and even though the mainstream is caught up in framing the President for crimes and other impeachable offenses, the dialogue has changed a bit since we were told that our government has an interest in UFOs.

I am sure that in the latter part of 2020, we will somehow rise above the political noise and focus on what has been limited to what can be called “confirmation containment.”










Written by Clyde Lewis

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