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4/6/22: THE ANSWER W/ JOE MURGIA

Ron Patton | April 6, 2022
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The Pentagon released another 1,574 pages of real-life X-Files related to its secretive UAP program. This time, the files speak of health effects that people have reported after coming into contact with UFOs or have been witnesses to UFO activity. The data dump includes reports into research on the biological effects of UFO sightings on humans, sets out categorizations for paranormal experiences, and studies into sci-fi-style technologies.  Furthermore, we have constantly been sending out signals and have even sent out a gold disc into deep space, mapping our location and showing what humans look like. Perhaps we are getting an answer from our attempts to make contact. Tonight on Ground Zero, Clyde Lewis talks with UFO researcher, Joe Murgia about THE ANSWER.

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4/6/22: THE ANSWER W/ JOE MURGIA

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While the mainstream news continues to give you the carnage report and how day by day the atrocities in Ukraine get worse and worse. I was reminded last night of all of the Cold War conspiracy theories that inspired me to do my show in the first place.

In the spin of conspiracy theory, we have Nazis, Communists, cover-ups. KGB, CIA, Kennedy assassination plots, and believe it or not in some strange way it all goes back to aliens.

Seriously.

I know that has become a cliche meme featuring Georgio Tsoukalos but there is a bit of method to his madness.

As I have talked about William Bramley the war historian and lawyer who wrote Gods of Eden — It becomes evident that UFO’s and aliens always seem to show up in times of history where there are major changes that occur. Most of them earth-shattering and historical.

From the tines of Harry Truman, to the top-secret meetings of Eisenhower and Kennedy there has always been that secret about whether or not the mother of all cover-ups is that something has been directing governments from a distance.

The strange and dark synarchy — a divine council or profane mob that somehow beams some sort of mesmerizing divinity that motivates our leaders into waging war against us — and telling us it is on behalf of our freedoms.

While we are witnessing images of death in war-torn Ukraine — perhaps we can go back in history a bit. A bit of history that I spoke of when we as Americans saw the turning point with our relationship with Soviet Russia when at the time we were told that it was the Evil Empire.

It was November 1985, in Versoix, a suburb of Geneva, Switzerland, and the world was still in the icy grip of a Cold War pitting Western democracies against the Soviet Union and its allies.

President Ronald Reagan, who you may recall was a former B-movie actor, science-fiction fan, and rabid anti-communist, was sitting down for a chat with Mikhail Gorbachev, the leader of the Soviet Union—the authoritarian communist nation Reagan, two years earlier, was joking about an calling it evil.

The two big shots had taken a break from their schedule to walk, and talk informally through interpreters, in a chalet near the official meeting place. They were facing each other in comfortable armchairs beside a warm fire. The talks, both official and unofficial, had not gone anywhere, but at one point Reagan, the sci-fi fan, abruptly asked Gorbachev, “What would you do if the US were suddenly attacked by someone from outer space? Would you help?”

“No doubt about it,” Gorbachev replied.

“Me, too,” Reagan said.

The Geneva talk did not result in any concrete treaties, but it did provide a breakthrough moment in which each leader recognized the other was serious about trying to stop the nuclear arms race and work toward a form of peace between the two superpowers: a breakthrough that would eventually reach fruition in START, the Strategic Arms Limitation Talks of 1991.

Gorbachev himself confirmed the conversation in Geneva during an important speech on February 17, 1987,in the Grand Kremlin Palace in Moscow, to the Central Committee of the USSR’s Communist Party.

In the speech he stated that “Reagan said that if the earth faced an invasion by extra-terrestrials, the United States and the Soviet Union would join forces to repel such an invasion. He then stated that he would not dispute the hypothesis but included that he thought that it was too early to worry about such an intrusion.

It is interesting to point out that Gorbachev never spoke of how weird the conversation was, he only commented that it may be too early to talk about such an event as an alien invasion. Did this indicate that perhaps there is a date when it would be more appropriate to discuss these things? Or have the Governments of the world been planning on a date where they announce to the world that Life is out there in space?

Is there a predetermined time where the United States government will remove all doubt about where we are in the universe?

The personal détente between Reagan and Gorbachev, informed by and possibly initiated during that talk about outer-space invaders in the chalet, also casts light on the root dynamics of cooperation and conflict between humans, and the possible effects that the discovery of “someone from outer space,” or some form of extra-terrestrial life, might have on how humans choose peace, or war: an issue that can only acquire more relevance as the ex-Soviet Union, in March 2022, under its president Vladimir Putin, continues to pursue a ruthless war against Ukraine.

In the record, there is also ample evidence of how people—usually men—of power have used  threats, and sometimes the reality, of outside invasion to unify divergent factions.

This is a well known tactic –this is recognizably the same tactic being used by Vladimir Putin who has rallied Russia around the theme of outside threats, from NATO and the West, to prevent neighboring Ukraine from joining forces with the what he calls Western enemy.

Today’s brutal invasion of Ukraine is the result.

This is wargaming and intelligence operators will feed you whatever they can to convince you that there is  the “other” or a scapegoat that can easily tbe termed the enemy, whether it is real or promulgated.

These examples are all, of course, Earthbound. And, while we have no solid evidence of life outside our own planet—despite a large number of unexplained “UFO”-type observations—the sheer size of the known universe, and our knowledge of how RNA-based life on Earth probably came about, makes the existence of other, “alien” life forms statistically very likely.

Just think about those statistics: One-hundred-trillion galaxies exist in the known universe—a number that is essentially impossible for our minds to understand—and each contains 100 billion stars, which adds up to one septillion stars.

That is the number one with 24 zeroes in case you are wondering.

Astronomers say that each star has at least the same number of orbiting planets. And 7.6 percent of these stars appear to be similar to our own sun, and a quarter of their planets 19 sextillion, or 19 + 21 zeros, according to Keppler observations, are likely be “Goldilocks” (“just-right”) planets: Earth-like in terms of size, nature, and proximity to their sun.

Mumbling numbers at the rate of 10 a second, it would take you or me well over a billion years to count up to a sextillion. And there are probably 19 sextillion Earth-like planets that might, in theory, generate conditions not dissimilar to those that spawned life on Earth, without taking into account the likelihood that alien life will be very different from ours.

So what are the odds or life out there? Pretty likely –but the logic escapes people when they have to accept the possibility that we are not alone –and that perhaps these beings have been with us for millennia and that we have somehow tuned them out.  That there is a possibility – that through some supernatural force we sometimes encounter these beings — and that they arouse suspicion, not only from witnesses but from various governments that wish to cover up something so terrifying that they do not understand it.

Case in point — the Pentagon released another 1,574 pages of real-life X-Files related to its secretive UFO program,

This time the files speak of health effects that people have reported after coming into contact with UFOs or have been witnesses to UFO activity.

The data dump includes reports into research on the biological effects of UFO sightings on humans, sets out categorizations for paranormal experiences, and studies into sci-fi-style technologies.

The DIA, the Department of Defense’s spy arm, said “some portions” of the documents “must be withheld in part” due to privacy and confidentiality concerns.

But the agency added the “DIA has not withheld any reasonably segregable non-exempt portions of the records”. The bombshell Freedom of Information haul includes reports on the DIA’s research into the biological effects of UFO sightings on humans.

And this includes burns, heart problems, sleep disturbances – and even bizarre occurrences such as “apparent abduction” and “unaccounted for pregnancy”.

The report noted that often these injuries are related to electromagnetic radiation – and links them to “energy-related propulsion systems”. And the report – prepared for the DIA – warns that such objects may be a “threat to United States interests”.

Humans have been found to have been injured from “exposures to anomalous vehicles, especially airborne and when in close proximity”, it reads.

The report added said it had 42 cases from medical files and 300 similar “unpublished” cases where humans had been injured after “anomalous” encounters.

One fascinating document included in an Acquisition Threat Support report, sets out how to categorize “anomalous behavior” – with encounters with “ghosts, yetis, spirits, elves and other mythical/ legendary entities” classed as “AN3”.

Seeing a UFO with aliens on board would be “CE3”.

Poltergeists, crop circles, spontaneous human combustion, alien abductions and other paranormal events are also categorized.

Studies into advanced technologies such as invisibility cloaks and mind-controlled robots are also included in the document cache

Other documents obtained include studies into communicating with alien civilisations and plans for deep space exploration and possible colonization.

Last year, the Pentagon released its long-awaited report into what it knows about a series of mysterious flying objects that have been observed in military airspaces over the last two decades. The report, released on the website of the Office of the Director for National Intelligence, examined 144 reports of encounters with what the government deemed “unidentified aerial phenomenon.”

It comes as the Pentagon is opening a new office to investigate UFOs, their origins and attempts to “capture or exploit” one of the mysterious craft after an amendment to a defense bill tabled in the US Senate.

The dedicated unit is called the Anomaly Surveillance and Resolution Office. It will probe whether or not the strange craft that have been reportedly buzzing the US military are unknown technology from Russia and China or potentially something more alien.

Which brings us to a recent story that has been published which again indicates that UFO’s or UAP are again buzzing our navy ships.

According to the New York Post, A US Navy warship was shadowed by two car-size balls of light that were unaffected by anti-drone weapons.

The USS Kearsarge is the latest vessel to have reportedly had a UFO encounter as the US military begins to open up about the mysterious phenomena.

The phenomena — described by sources familiar with the encounter as odd and menacing “balls of light” — are said to have been following around half a mile behind the ship and around 200 feet above the ocean.

The USS Kearsarge had been training at the time ahead of an overseas deployment — including with systems designed to take down enemy drones.

The weapons included anti-drone “Ghostbusters”-style backpacks, and systems mounted on vehicles. Pictures from the ship’s public Facebook page reveal they had these capabilities on board at the time of the alleged encounter. The objects are said to have been spotted at night by the deck watch — who could not gain a thermal targeting lock on them.

It is understood the incident was recorded on video by the crew — but this footage has not yet been released. Marines onboard are said to have believed at first the unexplained objects were part of a surprise training exercise for the new anti-drone weapons.

However, they discovered the countermeasures did not disrupt the objects — which were doing swooping maneuvers as they followed the ship.

The USS Kearsarge radioed command about the objects and were informed the objects were “not ours.”

This appears to be happening more and more — and the military is assuming that what is out there is unusual — but we have to wonder if this is a psychological operation– or are we seeing the beginnings of an alien invasion that has been talked about for at least 70 years or so?

Perhaps we are getting an answer from our attempts to make contact. We have been constantly been sending out signals and have even sent out a Gold disc into deep space, mapping our location and showing what humans look like.

It is a message in a bottle that we were hoping someone or something would see. Stephen Hawking once stated that is should be enough and that we should limit our attempts at contact because we wouldn’t want to awaken a hostile alien race that wished to colonize.

The Beacon in the Galaxy project has  some scientist alarmed because they are updating and resending messages into space in hopes that the aliens would reply.

Not only does  the new message contain an unsolicited nude image of a naked man and woman, but it also reveals information about our solar system, DNA and the Arecibo Radio Telescope – which transmitted a message in 1974 to try and scout out any extra-terrestrial life.

In including such information, the authors of the potential FAST and SETI Projects have seemingly dismissed the concerns of Stephen Hawking.

In 2015, at the launch of the Breakthrough Listen – a $100 million-funded project to search for intelligent alien communication in the universe – Hawking warned against reaching out to alien life.

He said: “If you look at history, contact between humans and less intelligent organisms have often been disastrous from their point of view, and encounters between civilizations with advanced versus primitive technologies have gone badly for the less advanced.”

Hawking explained that aliens ‘might not see us humans as any more valuable than we see bacteria.

However, Jamilah Hah, who is involved in the BITG project, disagrees.

She told Newsweek: “Stephen Hawking’s quote is absolutely inspiring and my personal conclusion was that any species capable of understanding and interpreting our message will likely be equally if not more intelligent and wary of our existence.

“Thus, as long as contact is approached with a clear sign of peace, it can be assumed that the hopeful possibilities and discoveries that come alongside communication outweigh the risk.”

KI don’t know if I agree– it would be nice to know for sure, but without the idea of a mothership arriving and killing us all with a death ray ala War of the Worlds.

The project’s proposed message is written in a binary code made up of mainly 0s and 1s, in a bid to use language which is as universal as possible.

As well as ‘basic mathematical and physical concepts’, the message includes ‘information on the biochemical composition of life on Earth, the Solar System’s time-stamped position in the Milky Way relative to known globular clusters, as well as digitized depictions of the Solar System, and Earth’s surface.’

Co-author of the study and Cambridge University physics and maths student Matthew Chong explained: “Extended from the 1974 Arecibo message and the 1999/2003 Cosmic Call, the main part of this BITG Message contains a new set of graphical information in the form of images and special ‘alphabets’ to represent numbers, elements, DNA, land, ocean, and human, etc., starting by an artificial header and footer that consists of prime numbers.”

While attempts to get in touch with alien life have proven unsuccessful for 150 years, exoplanet Gliese 832 c is thought to possibly be habitable.

Although, , Hawking warned in his 2016 online documentary series Stephen Hawking’s Favorite Places: “One day we might receive a signal from a planet like Gliese 832 c, but we should be wary of answering back.”

On April first, about 5 days ago I did a show on deception. Namely what I have been told is called the great deception. There are people among my audience that believe that if there was ever an alien invasion it would be made by our own government to united the world.

The deception would include some sort of holographic image to be projected on to the clouds. Something that would be akin to a visual war of the worlds scenario where even th elect would be fooled.

I contended that it would have to be pretty damn convincing — because one the show was over there would have to be more proof . We always talk about the action, we talk about the images, but we never contemplate the aftermath.

if people are cynical now about a possible alien invasion, they will be cynical after the invasion as occurred.  It would be debated on whether or not it was a false flag, or some Hollywood stunt to promote a new movie.

That is why it is important to understand that even if you think that an alien event would be fake — you have top also prepare yourself for the possibility that it is real.

We have been attempting to contact them for decades, and our TV signals are already finding their way into deep space by now,

The only thing scarier than the knowledge that we’ve been heard would be knowing we were heard — and getting a reply suggesting that there’s something horrible and dangerous listening.

That there are consequences to waking up a sleeping giant and informing possibly hostile aliens that we are here and desperate.  Definitely investing them to come and invade our territory.

Which brings us back to that chalet on Lake Geneva, and the immediate question of how humans might react to the detection of alien life of whatever nature. Consciously or not, humans still consider themselves, psychologically speaking, to be unique. Whatever the statistics suggest, we see the universe as a mysterious dark space, silent and empty of life, of which our human consciousness is the bright and noisy hub. Galileo and Copernicus shook up our assumptions when they proved that Earth was not the center of the solar system; Charles Darwin took human arrogance down a notch when he suggested that humans, far from being created by God on the sixth day, were in fact the descendants of apes; but our perception of self is still essentially religious, of a life-form created by a god, or gods, or archetypal animal-spirits, whose uniqueness is in all cases a given.

All that would change if another life form, almost certainly very different from ours (despite the essentially human images of aliens we are accustomed to from “Star Trek” and “Star Wars”) were detected on another planet. Suddenly we’d have to perceive Earth not as the cradle of universal consciousness, but as just another planet among many that have given birth to that weird chain-reaction of chemicals we call life.

If, as the odds seem to indicate, some of those life-forms prove in whatever way conscious, it would follow that we might eventually have to interact with them. Earth’s history, and the reactions of Reagan and Gorbachev, suggest that the presence of an outside power might allow our own planet’s different peoples to recognize and celebrate their essential identity when faced with the prospect of dealing with extraterrestrial beings.

Some evidence suggests that educated humans are OK with nonthreatening, methane-ice-spider-type aliens, and even very religious people might be able to accommodate the idea of life formed outside the precincts of their Earthly god.

But if you look at social media — the vocal are the cynics and will quickly poke fun at any blurry UFO picture or video that is posted — they will declare that the whole alien dram is a distraction away from what we should be caring about — not understanding that perhaps the aliens are responsible for the outright culling if humans with disease and war.

Reducing the population because the technocrats know that  the beings they are talking to wish to infiltrate and that they have slowly been doing this for centuries.

They need time to groom us for the core intelligence that leads us to believe that many people on this planet will be replaced by something or someone from out there.

When it comes to intelligent non-Earthly life, our cultural record suggests that we are more primed to view that as a threat–and the New Age gurus of the alien cults want you to believe that the threat is a hoax –and not the alien presence.

They want to convince you to welcome them with open arms and look to them as saviors — but even during Regan’s chat at Geneva he saw them as a threat that would have to Unite adversarial nations.

Here we are decades later fighting with Russia again — and wouldn’t it be the cherry on the top — to see both the United States and Russia work together to fight an alien threat from outside of this world?

Earth’s history reflects a warlike  cultural bias, suggesting that our go-to reflex might be to view extraterrestrials as hostile and that countries would united for a new kind of  war.

 

SHOW GUEST: JOE MURGIA

Joe Murgia is a freelance camera operator in Las Vegas, and shoots various shows, sporting events and concerts around town, including a recent three-week residency by Sting at Caesar’s Palace. After reading “Communion,” by Whitley Strieber in 1996, it sent him down a paranormal rabbit hole in which he now resides. Murgia runs a blog – www.ufojoe.net – where he focuses on the latest information about UFOs, including AAWSAP, which was the DIA’s effort, from 2008-2010, to study UFOs AND related phenomena and most importantly, health-related effects. His latest YouTube effort is a 90-minute interview of investigative journalist, George Knapp and the former Deputy Administrator of BAASS (which ran AAWSAP), Dr. Colm Kelleher, their book, “Skinwalkers at the Pentagon,” and how it relates to the current, historical push by Congress for a U.S. government-run, UFO office. He’s a prolific user of Twitter and after studying UFOs for 23 years, he still doesn’t know what it all means. But he’s getting closer. Maybe.

Written by Ron Patton

Comments

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  1. Ron Gallagher

    April 6, 2022 at 9:35 pm

    Evolution as posited (ie: non-theistic) is a thoroughly unscientific hypothesis, by definition. Embodying causeless effect rendering it anti-science being untestable by the Scientific method. A fairy tale for adults who cannot or will not believe/accept the premise of a Creator God (Elohim, YHWH) capable of creating life beyond this planet, and even our temporal 4-dimensions. The reason many will not accede to this supernatural explanation of existence is innate abhorrence to the thought of personal accountability over how they live their life.

  2. Greg

    April 7, 2022 at 5:06 am

    This world is a type of matrix. The ones in charge have the power to create beings or manifest themselves in many forms. In Gnostic texts the original demonic creator Yaldabaoth was defeated by one of his sons Sabaoth. He had the help of a feminine being Sophia. His throne is out in our solar system on a different planet. I wonder if the antichrist is a man with wizard like powers. He opens the door to the realm of death and releases imprisoned entities, maybe even the original Demiurge himself.

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