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9/22/22: ASHES TO ANGELS – THE BUILDER RACE AND THE STELLAR CIVILIZATIONS W/ BRAD OLSEN

Ron Patton | September 22, 2022

We were created in the image of God and we were given the knowledge to earn our place in the universe as planetary stewards. The ancients were taught this, and many wonder if the teachers and builders were from a stellar civilization. Ancient architecture, such as the pyramids and other enormous structures throughout the world, were built with precision beyond the normal human feats of engineering. Who were the technocratic creators of civilizations and great cities?  Tonight on Ground Zero, Clyde Lewis talks with Brad Olsen about  ASHES TO ANGELS – THE BUILDER RACE AND THE STELLAR CIVILIZATIONS.

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Planet Earth is home to some spectacular relics from bygone eras, constructions that seem to defy the technological capabilities of their time either because they’re too big, too heavy, or too complex.  As such, some suggest the ancient builders of the Egyptian pyramids, the Nazca Lines, and others were following an extraterrestrial instruction manual. Perhaps the hands that crafted these sites weren’t really of this world.

It’s a compelling proposal that aliens have visited Earth. It is even fun to speculate about alien technology capable of constructing some of the many mysterious wonders found on Easter Island or Egypt.

After all, humans are on the threshold of expanding our reach in space, and the science of exobiology, studying the multiverse, and panpsychism are now the new topics of discussion as the technocracy pushes us into the new paradigm.

The so-called technocracy within the global power elite is one of the most studied human subcultures ever. However, the studies are the most nebulous, because these power brokers of high technology have plans for you and me and future manipulations of the world are being delegated.

It is important to point out that the technocrats are patient and are continually working to bring forward a remarkable machine capable of solving problems that man can’t do now.

The events of the past two years have put us in a bit of a quandary. For so long we have been putting faith in ourselves and God to help us through times of strife and now after a grooming process, we have been encouraged to reject the possibility of God and to put our faith in self-appointed Gods. They, of course, are the scientific experts.

They certainly have tried to stifle any kind of spiritual or moral transformation or anything that has to do with where we came from, why are we here, and what happens after we die.

All that peace, love thy neighbor, do unto others stuff—that’s all so old-fashioned anyway given our woke generation operating on smartphones with its instant self-gratification.

That’s all too much work and best we stick with what we now know. Or perhaps it is best to rediscover what we already know and cut through all of the dogma and understand that life is a very fragile yet complex concept.

There have been many people that have argued about science, as we know it, is just an organized system of ignorance and disinformation when it comes to the confirmation of the existence of a world that is beyond ours.

They have dangled in front of us cosmic carrots that make us think we are edging closer to finding out the ultimate truth.

I doubt there is some ultimate truth and if is ever found, it will be by accident. However, accidents are the very thing that can wipe out our very existence.

You never know when your approximations, rules, or logical steps will suddenly cease to describe the Universe. You never know when your assumptions will suddenly become invalid.

If the laws of nature change over time, or behave differently under different conditions, or in different directions or locations, or aren’t applicable to the system you’re dealing with, your predictions will be wrong. And that’s why everything we do in science, no matter how well it gets tested, is always preliminary.

But the technocrats don’t like it when you talk that way — they want to tell you that all things scientific are settled and that nothing changes.

If science is settled, then why bother pushing the envelope? Why bother going on adventures to learn about new things — why should we go to space, when we can wait for space to come to us?

Our technology today has become part of our social strata; we are using it for communication and research. It has been a tool that has assisted us in raising our awareness.

Without it, we may have not had the information necessary to see patterns in ancient architecture or marvel at the complexities that certainly appear to be part of a builder race.

Our origins may be as simple as the relationship we have had with heaven — or what may have dwelt there or even beyond time and space.

I am sure many people have contemplated the idea that we had a relationship with a stellar civilization. We always say that when a person died he or she has been called home to heaven.

We say this all the time but do we actually know what we say it?  Are we admitting that our home was once a place that is out there in heaven?  Is it an extraterrestrial home that we hope exists and where our loved ones go after they die?

Carl Sagan once said, “We are made of Star Stuff”. His statement sums up the fact that the carbon, nitrogen, and oxygen atoms in our bodies, as well as atoms of all other heavy elements, were created in previous generations of stars over 4.5 billion years ago.

He said all life on Earth and the atoms in our bodies were created in the furnace of now-long-dead stars.

This may very well be the reason why we ascertain that God is in the heavens because this is where we were made. This is where we were made in his image and that through some super nova event we were seeded on this planet — like the Gods who fell to earth.

The material from a supernova eventually disperses throughout interstellar space. The oldest stars almost exclusively consisted of hydrogen and helium, with oxygen and the rest of the heavy elements in the universe later coming from supernova explosions, according to “Cosmic Collisions: The Hubble Atlas of Merging Galaxies.”

Perhaps the aliens that we are looking for are right here on Earth.

Jesus said in the Apocrypha of Judas ‘Come that I may teach you about secrets no person has ever seen. For there exists a great and boundless realm, whose extend no generation of angels has seen, in which there is a great and invisible spirit, which no eye of an angel has ever seen, no thought of the heart has ever comprehended, and, it was never called by any name.’

We have reported before that researchers from the University of Edinburgh’s School of Physics and Astronomy say that aliens have already arrived and that we are made up of various particles and germs that have come from space. They have based their dramatic findings on a new study of fast-moving extraterrestrial dust that constantly rains down on our atmosphere.

These particles serve as tiny ‘spaceships’ for microorganisms from alien worlds that traverse the vastness of interstellar space for eons before reaching Earth. This dusty downpour could also collide with biological particles in Earth’s atmosphere with enough energy to send them careening into space, and conceivably onwards to other planets in other solar systems.

Astrobiologists earlier found evidence of microorganisms reaching the planet in air samples taken at extreme altitudes, and from the discovery in 1984 of fossilized worms in a meteorite from Mars. Exciting data from the 1976 Viking space probes, which actually confirmed the presence of Martian microorganisms but were overlooked for 25 years by careless scientists, back these findings. In 2006, researchers from Columbia University discovered traces of amino acids, the building blocks of life, on meteorites that landed in Australia and the US less than a hundred years ago.

Some scientists argue that these extraterrestrial amino acids mixed with moisture in Earth’s ancient atmosphere to produce an acidic “soup” that then nourished the planet’s first organisms. This ties in with the panspermia theory, which says that outer space seeded Earth with comet-borne primitive life forms over four billion years ago.

We still don’t know how, or where, life began. The significance of all of the fascinating discoveries are now forcing us to reevaluate the foundation of the creation. It forces us to think seriously about who or what was behind the creation of mankind.

We are now confirming with compelling evidence that there is alien or extraterrestrial life out there somewhere. We are beginning to realize that perhaps their ability to travel here has really nothing to do with whether or not they travel light years, they may just be hopping through the multiverse.

If all of the discoveries hold up, we may find out that yes, these beings are among us and they share much of the same traits as we do.

A lot of people do not like hearing that God is the most unique and wise extraterrestrial, and when we break free from this prison planet we too become superheroes in a sense.

This was of course the thought of science fiction writer Philip K. Dick.

Philip K. Dick writes:

“We are trapped in a dream of our own making, we are in a kind of prison but do not know it.”

Becoming aware of our imprisonment, however, is the first, crucial step in becoming free of it. We have to be aware of what can be called eternal progression and it can only be achieved if we can somehow unlock the secrets of the ancient builder, teachers, and prophets.

If we look carefully we can see that we are someone else’s property. We were created in the image of God and we were given the knowledge to earn our place in the universe as planetary stewards.

The ancients were taught this, and many wonder if the teachers and builders were from a stellar civilization.

The pyramids and the Great Sphinx rise inexplicably from the desert at Giza, relics of a vanished culture. A similar architecture is seen in the Yucatan, with Mayan and Aztec cultures speaking of great Gods and how they helped in building these cities and communities.

The largest pyramid, built for the Pharaoh Khufu around 2530 B.C. and intended to last an eternity, was until early in the twentieth century the biggest building on the planet. To raise it, we are told that laborers moved into position six and a half million tons of stone—some in blocks as large as nine tons—with nothing but wood and rope.

It is unbelievable and of course, there have been theories that they had some help. The theories about Ancient Aliens and giants have now gone from pseudoarcheology to serious inquiry and while mainstream science dismisses this as pseudoscience — there have been discoveries that continually baffle the experts.

Some of these discoveries could definitely rewrite history.

As feats of engineering or testaments to the decades-long labor of tens of thousands, these ancient artifacts and structures have awed even the soberest observers.

The question of who labored to build them, and why, has long been part of their fascination. Rooted firmly in the popular imagination is the idea that the pyramids were built by slaves serving a merciless pharaoh. This notion of a vast slave class in Egypt originated in Judeo-Christian tradition and has been popularized by Hollywood productions like Cecil B. De Mille’s The Ten Commandments, in which a captive people labor in the scorching sun beneath the whips of pharaoh’s overseers.

Manly P, Hall wrote in his Secret Teachings of All Ages that there were giants that were called Rakshasas. They were considered a builder race with ties to the Titan Nimrod

The rakshasas or men-demons of Lanka, the opponents conquered by Rama in the Ramayana, are some of the latest representatives of the Atlanteans in their last days. These rakshasas correspond to the Greek titans, the Egyptian colossal heroes, the Chaldean izdubars, the Jewish ‘eimim or  terrifiers of the land of Moab, and the famous giants, Anakim mentioned in the biblical book of Numbers 13:33.

This Giant Boulder race was mentioned in The Vedas, in Puranas, and in Hindu epics.

Many players of Dungeons and Dragons are also familiar with the shape-shifting giants.

They appear as animal-headed humanoids generally with tiger or monkey heads with their hands inverted (the palms of their hands are where the backs of the hands would be on a human). They are masters of necromancy, enchantment, and illusion.

One of the most fascinating tales in the Babylonian Talmud is the story of Solomon and the demon-king, Ashmedai. The story involves a magic ring, a shape-shifting demon, and the Shamir, a magical worm or herb that splits rocks. Solomon enlists the help of demons to build the Temple. Many of them sound similar to the builder race spoken of in Hindu writings.

In the Testament of Solomon, we read that the Demons are described as Fallen Angels or the offspring of fallen angels and human women, and they live in stars and constellations. They can shapeshift into beasts and forces of nature. They lurk in deserts and haunt tombs, and they dedicate themselves to leading people astray.

The stellar bodies themselves are Demonic, wielding destructive power over the affairs of humanity.

Obviously, these so-called demons were builders and were the technocratic creators of civilizations and great cities.

Many believers and non-believers alike think the Bible and similar ancient texts were created by man to provide an explanation as to why and how we got here. For some, the reasons and writing are divinely ordained. For others, the stories and myths told through these texts were written to make the unexplained a little more explainable.

The Book of Enoch is one such ancient text. Enoch barely gets a nod in the Bible – he is acknowledged as an ancestor to Noah, and that’s about it – but his own book tells a story of demons, archangels, and giants. According to the text, a group of angels called Watchers taught humans a trove of unholy concepts, and God imprisoned them deep inside the Earth as punishment.

Enoch, a seventh-generation human after Adam and Noah’s great-grandfather, reveals how fallen angels, known as Watchers, came down from Heaven full of lust for mortal women and in rebellion against God.

While still in Heaven, Watchers were given the task of keeping an eye on the human race. They were to report to God regarding humanity’s progress, but they were told never to intervene in the natural evolution laid out by the creator. Despite this, the Watchers were taken by the beauty of humanity, and came down from Heaven full of lust for mortal women and a need to “choose… wives from among the children of men and beget… children.”

Two hundred angels came to Earth in search of carnal pleasure. Once the Watchers arrived, they continued to ignore God’s decree and instead taught humans many things, including how to build ornate structures, and how to forge arms and jewelry.

Eventually, they incurred God’s wrath for ignoring His word.

The Watchers landed at Mount Hermon, on the border of modern Lebanon and Syria. In the King James Bible, Genesis 6:1-5 may describe how the Watchers interbred with humans to create a new race of giants.

When men began to multiply on the face of the Earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and took them wives of all which they chose. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also afterward, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

These human/angel hybrids are called the Nephilim in The Book of Enoch, and they grew to be giants.

Could these offspring be the builder race? A hybrid race of a stellar civilization that were the beings that gave men knowledge about how to build huge cities?

While the Book of Enoch doesn’t specify where exactly on Earth the Watchers lie dormant there have been scriptures written by John in the book of revelation that some were bound near the Tigress and Euphrates River–and there have been many investigators that claim that many of these fallen ones have been imprisoned in the icy reaches of Antarctica.

Antarctica is touted as one of the most haunted places in the world. It is certainly one of most unknown and the thought of the Titans being buried there waiting for redemption is quite chilling.

Antarctica – the coldest, driest, and most barren continent on the planet – is said to hold secrets that have yet to be discovered as of 2019. This once-tropical land is now mostly covered in ice and has been the subject of mystery ever since the South Pole was formally discovered in the early 20th century. According to scientists, underneath the thick sheets of ice are mountain ranges, lakes, and ancient microbes in a state of suspended animation.

In 2006, NASA announced it found an electromagnetic anomaly that stretches 151 miles across in the Wilkes Land area of Antarctica. This unknown mass is generally thought to be contained in a 300-mile-wide impact crater from a meteorite that struck the content and potentially caused the Permian-Triassic extinction about 250 million years ago.

While it could be nothing more than a natural entity, There are ancient alien theorists that believe it is where the fallen angels are imprisoned. Sime have speculated that perhaps an ark or ship exists below the ice and that it is giving off clues that it is there.

Physicists don’t know what it is exactly. But they do know it’s some sort of cosmic ray—a high-energy particle that’s blasted its way through space, into the Earth, and back out again. Neutrinos are being released in reverse which indicates that perhaps there is a parallel universe of a portal in Antarctica that is yet to be discovered.

Researchers have been puzzling over two events in Antarctica where cosmic rays did burst out from the Earth and were detected by NASA’s Antarctic Impulsive Transient Antenna.

ANITA is designed to hunt cosmic rays from outer space, so the high-energy neutrino community was buzzing with excitement when the instrument detected particles that seemed to be blasting up from Earth instead of zooming down from space. Because cosmic rays shouldn’t do that, scientists began to wonder whether these mysterious beams are made of particles never seen before.

Some have even suggested that it is exhaust from a buried interstellar object.

In a quantum way, what is going on in Antarctica could be explained as an anomalous event that demonstrates an anti-universe dominated by antimatter, stretching back in time from the Big Bang and with spatial properties inverted to those in our own Universe.

If we were to give it a romantic religious overtone – we would call it the abyss or Hell.

There was an old theory that between the reign of Moses and the coming of Jesus there was a syncretism that was being carried out by a being that we now call Lucifer – a being of light that came from the Abyssou or abyss.

The syncretism preached what was called the anti-gospel as opposed to the gospel that was said to be the forward pathway to God. The anti-gospel was a reverse or obverse gospel that was from the abyss.

The saints were faced with a Gospel and an anti-gospel, the Christ and an Anti-Christ. As it was for Adam, the only way they could rightly discern between the light and the darkness, the truth and its doppelgänger, was through heeding the Word of God.

Continuing the theme of the altar of the abyss as an “evil twin” of the Tabernacle of God, the Revelation describes this event as a perversion of sacred architecture. The Seven Seals culminate in the pouring out of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, and the Seven Trumpets result in a confrontation – spiritual warfare between the true sons of Abraham and their evil twins, the Herodian imposters. The literary structure of the passage makes use of the chiastic nature of the Bible Matrix to present the Gospel witness of the Apostles as a two-edged sword that builds up the saints and throws down the sinners into the lake of fire in what was called the underworld.

Pandemonium, the city of “every demon,” in the underground has always been founded upon the blood of men, women and children. Instead of a stairway to heaven, it is a gateway to hell.

In the underworld are various structures and is home to various beasts of untold horrors but many people would tell you that there is no hell, no abyss no gateway to what can be called the “Upside Down.”

Now, many people have deduced that the Upside down is hell. Not that this is what they call it – but the doppelganger descriptions in the ancient Hebrew would pretty much describe it as hell.

They remind us subliminally that there is an underworld where all things corrupt occasionally rise to the occasion and appear as reminders that there is more than just the world we see, there is an underworld or a shadow world where monsters too horrible to comprehend exist and as Shakespeare noted —“As Flies to wonton boys, so are we to the unknown powers of the universe, we are killed for the pleasure of the Gods.” The more we dig through ancient writings we understand that earlier man and the scribes of the Middle East believed in an active underworld.

The more different interpretations we read, the more we begin to understand the schism between the entities of divinity and profanity. We understand that the so-called beginning of man or the creation is really the rebuilding and reorganization of a world that had been destroyed and later claimed by different entities that needed some sort of slave race to rebuild.

These creatures were at the mercy of these Gods and many of the inhabitants feared them. In ancient writings, it was forbidden to have knowledge because tampering or mocking such entities became a dangerous game. They were according to scribes the enemy of man and the wardens of the dead.

These unknowns would tinker with the evolutionary process. These unknown beings were alien to the planet and were known to infiltrate and subdue the women and harm the children. The changes that followed the infiltration of these alien forms put a lot of torment on mankind.

The ancient aliens and the Titans were not only giants but they were the builders who imparted Illuminating knowledge and could be hiding somewhere in the icy prison of Antarctica — the proof could be the particles that are coming from our planet — this is unique and signals that we may not know everything about the icy reaches of Antarctica.

Remember the Titans were the banished gods of Greek Mythology, who were no longer part of the upper world. Rather they were the gods who dwelt underground in Tartarus.

They were banished to the Inner World.

We often speculate about these beings as being ancient aliens, or they were called the Titans but their origins have been elusive and their legends are a matter of record.

An “inner world” is also referred to in the Puranas an ancient city called Shamballa is located inside the Earth. This city is also referred to in Tibetan Buddhism. The theory of Earth having a hollow interior has remained a popular concept ever since and has lived on throughout the ages.

In fact, South American mythology, Native American mythology, Russian legend, Mexican folklore, certain tribes of India and Celtic mythology all seem to refer to a subterranean world inside the hollow interior of the Earth. Some of them even refer to strange creatures and human looking beings that live in underground bases and have ancient technology.

When earthquakes would take place the ancients would surmise that the Gods of the underworld were angry at them.

According to the Journal of Geophysical Research time and space, electromagnetic disturbances of relatively high amplitudes (several tens of nanotesla for the magnetic field and several hundreds of millivolts for the electrical potential) have been clearly evidenced in a substantial number of field studies and correlated with volcanic activity. When an earthquake looms, scientists theorize, activity below ground goes through a “strange change,” producing intense electrical currents. Electrical currents that may produce a hum or an anomalous electrical spike as the waves pass through the earth and then trigger an area of shaking.

Again, ancient myths come into play as the mighty Titans were known to hurl mountains down to rubble. They were known to open up mountains, revealing the fiery brimstone and smoke beneath the earth. It is said that the abyss is the home of the Titans and when volcanoes erupt we are getting a glimpse of what flows in the underworld.

The molten lava would reduce cities to ash.

It is believed that their legs and arms are moving the earth and soon the gates of their home shall open and that before the end of the world that they will return.

Our reunion, I am sure, will not be a friendly one.

 

SHOW GUEST: BRAD OLSEN

Brad Olsen is the author of ten books, including three in his Esoteric Series: “Modern Esoteric”  “Future Esoteric” and “Beyond Esoteric.” An award-winning author, public speaker, YouTube content creator of the “Esoteric Circle,” book publisher and event producer, his keynote presentations and interviews have enlightened audiences at Contact in the Desert, Awareness Life Expo, the 5D events and dozens of radio and television shows. Brad is a founder and co-producer of the How Weird Street Faire in the SOMA neighborhood of his home-base San Francisco. The Chicago native’s esoteric writing continues to reach a wide audience while he continues breaking ground in alternative journalism, public speaking, illustration and photography.

Written by Ron Patton

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  1. Cookie Tricari

    September 22, 2022 at 10:21 pm

    So interesting are all the people that come on Ground Zero Clyde, … you always have something that adds so much to what I could not get elsewhere in each show, … so much is added to bits and pieces , things that mean so much in what I can gather, and eschatology and what is and is coming , I am interested in so much, and Ground Zero (you) bring it to the table … so thankful Clyde as all is coming to past, … totally love your Show Clyde and when the Door is opened (Rev.4:1) I hope to see all the whole thing from the beginning , so interesting is all I can say, thank you and your guests and those who call in. No fooling around ” Welcome to Planet Earth 2022 ” and moving on judgement is coming big time and hopefully soon (Luke 21:) “in the twinkle of an eye” and another part of earth’s history begins. Keep looking up.

  2. STEPHEN

    September 23, 2022 at 1:50 am

    “THE UNIVERSE IS AN ILLUSION OF REALITY”
    GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE, GOD CREATED SCIENTIST TO OBSERVE HIS CREATION
    PRIMORTIAL SOUP & STAR DUST DOESN’T ANSWER SOUL SPIRIT, CONSCIENCENESS & ALL THE ASPECTS OF EMOTION, HATE, DESIRE, EVIL, LOVE & ALL THE THINGS BEING HUMAN
    AS FOR AS TRAVELING OR JOURNEYING TO OTHER GALAXYS PLANETS OR STAR SYSTEMS MAN NEEDS TO GET OUR OWN PLANET HOUSEIN ORDER
    FRIEND USE TO ASK ME WHAT’S IT ALL ABOUT
    GUESS THE BIBLE IS THE CLOSEST ANSWER

  3. Greg

    September 23, 2022 at 5:06 am

    Great show Clyde. This is a good summary of mankinds situation. I believe the dream world is a world that humans share with these other entities. In the dream world many people including inventors discover secret knowledge. I also believe part of what makes us imprisoned here is that some force is always at work hiding or blocking knowledge from us. There is a force at work that keeps us from moving forward. Mankind is used as a shield to block other entities from reaching heaven. We are extremely powerful beings that have been dumbed down and forced to work as prison wardens to keep the entities in the underworld, while we ourselves are imprisoned. This is getting old and will not last forever. At the same time not all of humanity is on the same level, many people act as mindless constructs while the free thinkers who have the true spark of life are tormented by what they see that others don’t. When the few who are holding the line no longer do because they have transcended or have lost the will because of exaustion, then the masses will be overrun by the demonic hordes.

  4. John Weiner

    September 23, 2022 at 10:46 am

    ” In the beginning,” Clyde, is another way to say,” once upon a time, ” just as,” amen,” is another way to say,” the end.” As for the caller who said, he saw fish without eyes, snakes have no ears, and can’t hear.
    I guess you have heard the news that California passed a law allowing humans to be used for compost, a topic you first talked about two or three years ago.

  5. John Weiner

    September 23, 2022 at 11:12 am

    As Greg states, there is a force holding us back from exploring outer space. It is called religion, with biblical quotes such as Satan being called,” the prince of the skies,” that I first heard from Nick Pope, that I referred to in one of my, Sunday, September11, 2022, posts, Clyde. Until we can find a way past this we always will be held/holding ourselves back. If you ever have Nick Pope back on the show, hopefully you will ask him about it, Clyde.

  6. Jimbo

    September 23, 2022 at 12:19 pm

    Mount Hermon was the site of the Transfiguration, where Moses and Elijah appeared with Jesus who briefly let his uncloaked Divinity shine out, where God told Peter, James, and John this was His divine Son hear Him. Christ affirmed the Gates of Hell would not prevail at this very spot where satan and his fallen legion bound themselves together by oath to forever oppose YHWH who, according to the Book of Enoch, would not allow them back to their former state after they had rebelled. It was an eternal transgression, for which no forgiveness was possible.

    In man’s case, his sin is eternal only if a refusal to believe/receive Christ persists unto physical death. “Belief” is called obedience, and is the “work” we’re told to “perform” to gain eternal life, while unbelief ultimately becomes an unforgivable “final” sin.

    Rejection of Christ is the ONE thing He couldn’t die for, and the free will of man must so be respected to so be. Whereas Christ told the Father in the Garden, “..not my will, but thine be done,” there will be no recourse left but to tell all salvation refusers that very same thing, as they go to a place “prepared for the devil and his angels.”

  7. Greg

    September 23, 2022 at 12:54 pm

    Religion infantilizes people. It makes them glorify being needy. One can believe in god without being religious and going to church. Many sects of Christianity femonize men, they are tought that people are fallen and need the church and their change will come in the twinkling of an eye so you dont need to do anything but have faith. There has always been a debate about faith and works. Some say faith without works is dead. The most controversial book in the bible is James. This books divides Christians from each other. Especially the line that says Show me your faith without your works and I will show you my faith by my works. This actually applies to any belief system. I know some christians who are excellent people just like I know non christians who are excellent, it has nothing to do with religion but about the individual. Some christians are absolutely horrible and would not want to be stuck in the same room as them let alone eternaly, yikes.

  8. Greg

    September 23, 2022 at 1:01 pm

    Basically in other words organized religion can attract some nasty personality types. And these people would be considered blasphemous but the rule in christianity is to not question someone else’s faith. Talk about causing disfunction.

  9. Jimbo

    September 26, 2022 at 6:10 pm

    Saved by His (Christ’s) grace works alone, which we accept by faith to become Born again. Our after acceptance of Him “works” are what demonstrate that faith. You cannot be saved and afterwards not produce good works. I would interpret “faith w/o works is dead” in this context: good works naturally flow from saving faith, but did not produce it.

    Ephesians 2: 8-9 (saved “unto” good works)

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