Transcript for 5/9/24: DARK DISCLOSURE – BONDING THE AETHER W/ ROB BALL AND CRAIG CAMPOBASSO

About a year ago, a Las Vegas teenager claimed he along with members of his family saw “nonhuman” beings in his backyard.

He now claims there have been more strange occurrences in his house.

Angel Kenmore says he saw a cross float in the air and the pages of a Bible flip over in a room with no breeze. Now, Kenmore says he really wants to move.

Nearly a year ago, the Kenmore family called police to report strange 10-foot-tall creatures in their backyard. Now, they claim to be experiencing even stranger events.

Kenmore said he and his brother saw a cross from which the figure of Jesus had been ripped off.

The other incident involved a Bible that sat on a table, its pages steadily turning with no help and no breeze. “Flippin’ the pages, but it wasn’t (from) the air. It was steady like somebody was holding it,” Kenmore said. Kenmore called it another sign of a demonic presence in the house.

In fact, the 17-year-old is now saying that what he once witnessed as aliens may have been in fact demons.

“We had a couple of priests come over to the house, they’re saying that it might be fallen angels,” he explained.

Kenmore believes there is a connection between the creatures he reported in his family’s backyard last year and the phenomena inside the house. 

The Kenmore family still doesn’t have any solid explanation for the strange things allegedly happening inside and outside their home.

They went into hiding for a time and some people even reported that the family may have met harm.

But now Angel is back to now say that he is terrified that what they encountered was a demonic presence.

His neighbor told NewsNation that he remembers the night that the creatures allegedly visited the Kenmore’s backyard. He said his TV and surveillance cameras stopped working at that same time.

Body camera footage from Metro Las Vegas Police shows a flash across the sky the night of the family’s sighting, adding intrigue to the mystery, NewsNation local affiliate KLAS reported. However, the police department would not make the officers who responded to the call that night available for an interview.

The American Meteor Society says it is sure it was a meteor that caused that streak in the night sky, with 21 reported sightings of it stretching across California, Nevada, and Utah.

If you recall -- this event happened around the same time Pentagon whistleblower David Grusch, alleged a covert crash retrieval program of nonhuman spacecraft.

The question is now that the Angel Kenmore story has evolved from aliens to fallen angels -- are we dealing with aliens or are we dealing with angels?

I have stated before that I have a passion for old movies, mainly the ones from the old studios. Universal studios monsters and Hammer films. But I have also started an interest in 1960's and 70's grindhouse films. The style has been revived by Quenton Tarantino, and Robert Rodriguez. The style can also be seen in the newest film Late Night with the Devil.

Over the weekend I discovered that one of my cable services provides a channel that shows what they call "drive-in " movies.

So I sat back and watched a couple of the movies offered. One Was Wes Craven's sadistic film "Last House on the Left" and one that I have never seen called "Legion."

The film reminded me of the film "The Prophecy" starring Christopher Walken. Both films tend to blur the lines between angels and demons. All Angels even the fallen ones are depicted as warriors and it gets confusing as to who the good guys and the bad guys are.

This is a departure from the cherubic aliens we see depicted in religious paintings --and sadly it may be an unpopular view, but angels seem to have amoral personalities.

They may never cross you, but a fallen angel has a tendency to coerce you into doing things that you would never do normally.

They may even be among us as it is written in Hebrews in the Bible --"Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers, for by this some have entertained angels without knowing it."

However, we also learn later that angels at times can look terrifying -- explained as pale, with simple features, and piercing eyes-- dark around the edges but hypnotic.

Angels appeared to shepherds tending their flocks, to announce the birth of the Christ Child and the shepherds fell to their knees and hid their faces because they were terrified as to what they saw.

Ezekiel when he saw the flying wheel within a wheel, describes the pilots of the machine he saw. Ezekiel could only describe the entities with the knowledge of beings that he knew existed on Earth.

All were capable of flight according to the prophet. There were four pilots that were in the flying wheel. 

The first pilot's face was the face of the ull , and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.

It appears that all of the faces of each individual pilot represented different rebalms-- but all gave a simultaneous vision of a God on the throne.

This is a bonding of the Aether-- where commonality was seen between the beings and a supreme being above them on the throne.

No matter how you look at the situation, Ezekiel had a sighting of what he describes as a flying wheel, and later he had encounters with beings that he describes as best as he could as being distinct -- and all had the bonding with heaven and earth with a superior being that sat on a throne.

People have often stated that the story of Ezekiel sounds very much like a UFO encounter -- a Close encounter of the 5th kind where the experiencer has contact with entities that are certainly not from this dimension or planet.

However, there are Christians that draw the line with such interpretations --although they use the accounts of Genesis 6 as proof that there were Giant aliens called the Nephilim that came down from heaven and attacked human females.

The Women eventually gave birth to hybrid offspring. 

The passage in Genesis states:

"There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The account is used to show that aliens do exist, but they are fallen Titans -- that tried to thwart the creation of mankind in defiance of God.

This explanation is enough for many Christians who wish to believe that the aliens and encounters we hear about are simply demons or fallen angels and are what is called a great deception.

But the question is what is this great deception -- what are these beings deceiving is from?

Many claim that the beings want us to worship them -- but there have been no real former testimonies that state that these beings seek to worship.

In fact, using the Ezekiel story as an example, the beings showed Ezeikile the throne of God.

So how do we reconcile aliens, demons, and angels? 

Philosophy professor Christian Weidemann of Germany's Ruhr-University Bochum held a well-known panel at the 100-Year Starship Symposium, a meeting sponsored by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) to discuss issues surrounding traveling to other stars.

He called the panel "Did Jesus Die For Klingons Too?" 

This was the subject of his talk at a panel on the philosophical and religious considerations of visiting other worlds.

He brought up an intriguing thought: If the whole of creation includes 125 billion galaxies with hundreds of billions of stars in each, as astronomers think, then what if some of these stars have planets with advanced civilizations, too? 

Why would Jesus Christ have come to Earth, of all the inhabited planets in the universe, to save Earthlings and abandon the rest of God's creatures?

Weidemann, a self-described protestant Christian, suggested some possible solutions. Perhaps extraterrestrials aren't sinners, like humans, and therefore don't need saving. However, the principle of mediocrity -- the idea that your own example is most likely typical unless you have evidence to the contrary -- casts doubt on this, he pointed out. 

"If there are extraterrestrial intelligent beings at all, it is safe to assume that most of them are sinners too," Weidemann said. "If so, did Jesus save them too? If so, our position among intelligent beings in the universe would be very exceptional."

Another possibility is that God incarnated multiple times, sending a version of himself down to save each inhabited planet separately.

However, based on the best guesses of how many civilizations we might expect to exist in the universe, and how long planets and civilizations are expected to survive, God's incarnations would have had to be in about 250 places simultaneously at any given time, assuming each incarnation took about 30 years, Weidemann calculated.

Rev. Thomas Hoffmann, a protestant pastor in Tulsa, Okla., said that the issues Weidemann raised were "really on target."

"If life is discovered elsewhere, unfortunately, we need to have more discussion about it," Hoffmann said. "I think this is a very robust conversation we need to have."

While the discovery of extraterrestrial intelligence would likely spur profound soul-searching for people of all faiths, many of the world's religions might have an easier time accommodating the knowledge than Christianity-- but why would it be so hard when we are already questioning if aliens and demons are one and the same -- it is curious though why angles are somehow out of the equation -- aliens could equally be the angels spoken of in the bible -- but it seems that this area of thinking is blasphemy.

This is why I say that when it comes to paranormal studies, I always like to separate my peas from my potatoes. But for the sake of argument -- these ideas about the connections between aliens and the divine or even aliens and the profane have become a major issue with those who wish to push disclosure in the halls of government.

The head of the Pentagon’s UFO office is retiring, days after admitting there could be some truth to the shocking claims that the US government is hiding evidence of aliens.

In an interview with Politico, Dr Sean Kirkpatrick said he had decided to step down after achieving his goals, having postponed retirement to take on the role.

Dr Kirkpatrick has been director of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) since it was founded by the Biden administration last year, and in the 18 months since its inception, the issue of UFOs has generated much public and political interest.

This reached a fever pitch in the summer after former US intelligence officer David Grusch alleged the government had evidence of ‘intact and partially intact’ alien vehicles.

Speaking during a congressional hearing into Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), he went further, adding that people who have had encounters with UFOs or so-called aliens had been "harmed or injured."

This also includes those who have tried to tell the truth about what we are up against. It is rumored that many Senators investigating the UFO secrets determine that there is an element of witchcraft or dark powers associated with UFOs and think that this may not be something that the public wants to hear.

Newly declassified documents, along with extraordinary legislation, illustrate how there is still an effort by Senators to unveil the possibility of alien intelligence and the possibility that we have crasjed craft in our possession.

Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) and the late Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) were not alone in their focus on UFOs. The Democratic leaders received critical support and encouragement from a bipartisan group of high-profile senators over the years, including former fighter pilot and famed astronaut John Glenn (D-Ohio); Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), who observed a UFO as a World War II pilot; Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii), then-chairman of the Senate Appropriations Subcommittee on Defense; 2008 GOP presidential nominee Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.); Senate Intelligence Vice Chairman Marco Rubio (R-Fla.); Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) and Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.).

There are still some that are reticent in coming forward over the idea that it may be a religious conflict of interest --as they believe there is something more spiritual or even biblical going on.

In late 2011, for example, the top scientist at the Department of Homeland Security met with Lieberman, then chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, and Reid to discuss the establishment of an ultra-secret UFO program.

As outlined in remarkable detail in newly released documents, the intent of the proposed program was to “gain access to and inventory” UFOs secretly under “investigation in National Laboratories, government organizations and/or contractors.”

From there, the program would engage in “laboratory experimentation” and “scientific investigation” to foster “technology exploitation” of the recovered materials.

In short, Reid and Lieberman were advocating, “with some sense of urgency,” for the establishment of a formal UFO reverse-engineering program.

Startling as it may be, the notion that shadowy elements of the U.S. government or defense contractors secretly possess retrieved UFOs is treated as fact in the documents.

Both Liberman and Harry Reid have both passed away.

The Reid- and Lieberman-backed proposal included an “Oral History Initiative” to interview a pre-identified “list of retired, previously highly placed government, armed services, contractor, and intelligence community individuals” with knowledge of the “location of advanced aerospace technology and biological samples.”

Even though the Department of Homeland Security’s top scientist was advocating for the establishment of the UFO program and the “very serious science involved with” it, department leadership ultimately quashed the proposal in late 2011.

Critically, according to Schumer, “multiple credible sources” have alleged that elements of the U.S. government have withheld UFO-related information from Congress illegally.

In a lot of ways the political side of the issue, is quite frustrating. Simply put, how do we trust that a government will give us full disclosure anyway?

Is all of the UFO/Alien mystique rooted in spiritual trappings? Are we dealing with a more religious topic than a scientific one?

Is it both?

We can observe that what was once a concern about the spiritual new age awakening - and the religious Nuance of aliens angels and demons --is now becoming a concern of the Military and national security.

There seems to be a knee-jerk response to interpretations at various high levels, including Congress, on partial or incomplete data. It’s partial data behind multiple shields of secrecy. 

This is not disclosure. 

It raises more questions than answers --and again makes us wonder if it isn't a threat to national security but a threat that would tear up civilizations-- and change the way we perceive ourselves and our relationship with God.

Right now the military and intelligence groups have stepped in and they appear to be concerned with rumor control—essentially to stop people from stirring up the public with the stories about what UFOs may be.

It has always been controlling the narrative.

Not just for the politicians and the generals -- but the clergy as well.

This influence actually finds itself at the Pentagon, men and women are not putting their prejudices aside-- but should.

People who are in the government or the military do have some roots placed firmly in Abrahamic religious beliefs.

Christian, Muslim, and Jewish perspectives.

But of course mostly Christian, They see things like aliens that are intervening in the world—things that can’t be fit into their religious beliefs as evil. It becomes a threat, which is military speak for a demonic attack.

We now see that there is a general sense among evangelical Christians that the UFO alien experience is somehow bad or sinister or even evil because it can’t be reduced to ancient writings from the bible. Or the Christian understanding of the world.

Any intervention has to be carried out by God or traditionally white-robed winged angels.

Won't we be surprised if creatures of all kinds appear and blow trumpets indicating that the God of the throne has returned? 

The veil will be thinned and the bonding of the Aether will be secured.

Then it really won't matter anymore because extraterrestrial beings --meaning not of this earth, will arrive hopefully with good news.